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morgan šŸ—”'s avatar

brilliant & hilarious. one of my favorite reads lately!

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Samara's avatar

I’m so thrilled to hear this - thank you morgan!!!

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rachelle mandik's avatar

While reading this I had a great memory from middle school (rare! perhaps there is only this one!) of peeking over at a boy drawing on his paper-bag textbook cover "I LOVE SATIN" and stifling a laugh the entire class imagining him fondling synthetic textiles in ecstatic rapture

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Samara's avatar

bahaha i love this. HAIL SATIN!

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Saint-Lazare's avatar

Very interesting and love the touches of humor (here for the evil monsters rom-com).

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Samara's avatar

so glad you enjoyed it, Saint-Lazare!

(and me too…me too…. )

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Elaine elfEars's avatar

Love the essay, and LOVE your notes. Never fear, sister, those of us from the North know that the millennia-overdue vengeance Will come! The scribes of the sky-gods will not control the narrative forever, the Earthborn Powers rise again.

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Samara's avatar

yesssssss

thank you, Elaine! I prize your opinion and reading and am glad this struck all the right chords :)

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Elaine elfEars's avatar

Oh my, the ā€œprizing ā€œ goes both ways!

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Franklin Dandridge's avatar

This hits like Thor’s hammer.

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Samara's avatar

haha hell yes! thanks for reading, Franklin :)

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Franklin Dandridge's avatar

My pleasure. Very inspiring, this.

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MA Knight's avatar

Sea monster staying power!!! I’m getting a ton of inspiration from this. Excellent, excellent

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Samara's avatar

I’m so thrilled to hear it! thank you so much for reading, MA

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lchristopher's avatar

SAMARA. Wanna be my adversary? We could run off and get matching god jackets and stand around smoking cigarettes in front of drugstores being cool.

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Samara's avatar

well this is a very attractive offer… I’ve been wanting to sport a god-jacket…. we can be congenial adversaries, a win-win vendetta

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lchristopher's avatar

YES. LE MONDE EST A NOUS

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Mac Sitko's avatar

Sweet, now I’m more educated, finally.

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Samara's avatar

haha happy to be part of that

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Gil Nobodi's avatar

Absolutely hilarious at points and deeply thoughtful at others. Thoroughly enjoyed. Your work here is very impressive and was a pleasure to experience. That damn sea monster! 🤣

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Samara's avatar

thank you so much, Gil! this is how I sincerely hoped it would be received, so this is wonderful to hear - I appreciate you reading.

that damn sea monster indeed!!!

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Waving From A Distance's avatar

Awesome post! You have done all the research, all the hard work and delivered an extraordinary summary of facts. Fabulous writing, well documented and easy to read. LOVED it. (And this is from a lapsed Catholic steeped in history, which I adore. I pretty much intuited all this from bits and pieces I'd read, but had no idea of the details, the flow, and how close to your analysis I was.)

"Not to mention women! Notorious devil-consorters, witches and temptresses all." Great line!

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Samara's avatar

thank you so much, friend! I’m thrilled that you enjoyed (and that you got to the very last footnote no less). I’m from a Catholic background too and this was a very interesting exploration to say the least

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Waving From A Distance's avatar

I always read to the bottom of your work! I know there's going to be a kicker, and even though I usually love the entire post, if I stumble, I never stop reading :)

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The FOJ 449331's avatar

What an excellent post - thank you!

I've enjoyed all of your writing on this theme and have learned a lot - it is such a pleasure for me to see the handful of people active today, such as yourself, penetrating into these mysteries and elucidating them for the more modern and rational mind.

For me, I've had almost no other teacher or interest in these matters other than Rudolf Steiner and his worldview has become the lens through which I'm left to interpret these things. As such, most everything that follows is colored by what I've learned through him.

Anything that has to do with water is related to the 'etheric kingdom.' This is one of the four kingdoms belonging to the both the microcosm and macrocosm. If one is an 'atheist-materialist' one takes the 'mineral kingdom' as ALL - this was the great project of western humanity which culminated in the late 1800's and with which we're still wrestling today. This is a masculine worldview - mechanistic - absent of gods or mystery - save for the machine, which is above all. ... You, in contrast, are introducing and dwelling in the kingdom above. No doubt the kingdom you are expounding on IS superior to the mineral (this battle first raged, some say, before the Biblical Eve, between Adam's 'first wife' Lilith and himself. Lilith, represents the 'etheric realm' - the realm of the serpent. Eve represents the kingdom of air (or the sky as you've mentioned) also known as 'the soul' - Adam means both 'earth and blood' and represents the mineral kingdom and fire which is equivalent to the 'spirit.'

The four kingdoms are represented in the symbol of the square whose most famous physical manifestation is found in the pyramid whose base is a square and rests on the earth. The square contains our mineral body, life body, soul, and divine unchangeable spirit. The triangle that departs from the earthly square represents the 3 heavenly - non-earth-bound - aspects of the human being - this derives from the individual's spirit 'incarnating' into and replacing the former role of the physical (spirit mixes with soul, etheric, and mineral elements).

In Atlantean times, the etheric element was so superior to the physical as to completely eclipse it (a physical corollary to this is seen in the earliest sculptures - the "Venus" statues where the masculine is not even represented. But things went badly. Through controlling the etheric the physical body of the world became jeopardized and so the plan had to change. This is symbolized in Zeus' rivalry with Poseidon and the latter 'sinking into the sea.' In Atlantis this manifested as 'the flood.' All the symbols of the 'ark,' the battle of Troy (the "horse" over Laocoon's prophecy - becoming subsumed by the tentacles of the sea creature) and so on demonstrate the artificial 'correction' make to place the mineral over the etheric.

There are 3 primary forms of evil -Ahriman (related to the Persian mythology you cited), Lucifer, and the Asuras. In Norse mythology - the Midgard Serpent (Loki's offspring - is an evolution of Loki himself - or Leviathan, or an aspect of Poseidon, or Lilith, or the serpent from the garden of Eden, related to Medusa and so on.) The Fenris Wolf is Ahriman - in the old mythology he didn't have much power - appearing as "Epimethius" who was responsible for the 7 deadly sins of 'Pandora's box" but he didn't reign supreme as he does now (the Wolf was chained, but released in our times - according to Steiner in the year 1848) - as the reptile (the 'dry' serpent) as the 'lord of the flies -Beelzebub' as technology, as the machine. Hel is Loki's last evil - the Asuras which is the evil of suicide and absolute destruction.

When you mix the evils - as you've so wonderfully done here and there - you get that character that Goethe first introduced as "Mephistopheles" but this is a temporary aberration as the two separate - in time - .... maybe already it is obvious that the "Two-Horned-Beast" and the "Whore of Babylon" are the corrupted masculine and feminine - the final forms of Ahriman and Lucifer. The beast you mentioned with the seven heads and 10 horns is a picture of the entire human make-up in corrupted form.

I guess there's an endless amount to add - the Bible is a tiny sliver of the picture - the Indian system is more comprehensive, but doesn't drawn enough attention to our modern times, Steiner wrote over 40 books and gave over 3000 lectures on these topics and it's still just the tip of the iceberg.

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Samara's avatar

wow thank you for all of that insight - which book of Steiner’s goes into this?

and thank you for trudging through this long post and reading the whole seamonster series - it was a rabbit hole I did not intend to go down, but ended up completely fascinating me

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The FOJ 449331's avatar

Thanks! It’s hard for me to recommend Steiner books - almost all of them have at their heart these themes, but so few of them say things succinctly. Most of them too, presuppose a vocabulary based on Blavatsky’s Theosophy.

That said, the one book of his that has continued to interest me over the years (I’m 51, I started reading his stuff when I was 18) is his ā€œTemple Legendā€ series. It’s one of the only books of his that I know of that deals with issues such as ā€˜the masculine Vs. feminine’ and is primarily geared toward modern times (ā€˜doers’ Vs. ā€˜thinkers’ as they were in his generation).

Most of the time, he is incredibly dry and German - one of the things that can possibly get around this is if you go to the ā€˜rsarchive.org’ and type in search words, you might find some real gems of quotations.

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Samara's avatar

thank you for this - positive I have the vocabulary ready to roll but have oddly never read his books, just essays here and there... I'll do some digging... really appreciate your insights here!

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